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I'm trying to visit Italy again so I can see one of my family members and I don't quite get the rule.

I know it's concept is about the first day you enter the Schengen zone, the 180 day count starts and you can't be in the Schengen zone over 90 days.

I'm not even sure if I violated the rule right now.

So my situation: I was in Italy on August 4-September 4 2018 and on January 11-March 7 2019. For 89 days total if my count was right...

So question #1: Did I violate the rule? question #2: If I didn't violate it, when can I go back to Italy for 90 days fully?

Thanks in advance!

cheeto
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4 August to 4 September is 28+4=32 days. 11 January to 7 March is 21+28+7=56 days. Total 88 days.

As 4 September 2018 is more than 180 days ago, that trip is no longer relevant.

Until 10 June, 11 January is less than 180 days ago, so the entire trip counts, but you can't spend 34 (90-56) days in Schengen before 10 June, so it's mostly irrelevant.

On 3 September 2019, 7 March 2019 will be 180 days ago, so after that the second trip doesn't matter either.

If you enter Schengen now (1 July), it will be the 57th day within the last 180 days, tomorrow will then be the 58th, and so on until the 9th (tuesday next week) which will be your 65th day within the last 180. But on the 10th, January 11 suddenly falls out of the 180 day window, so the 10th will also be your 65th day within 180 days. And until 2 September, every day will then be the 65th, after that the count starts increasing again, so 3 September will be the 66th, and so on. Until 27 September which will be the 90th day within the last 180 days.

As a stay from now until 27 September only comes to 89 days in my count, I must have made a minor mistake in the calculation. But the conclusion is clear, you can stay 90 days from today, as your previous stay will move out of the 180 day window during the stay.

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Using the calculator gives me 88 days for your previous stays, no violation. You can enter for up to 90 days from today. Inputting a hypothetical entry date of 1st July gives a response of:

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